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  Can someone explain to me why the giants acted like they didnt want to score that last TD in the superbowl?
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The guy tried to stop before scoring, which makes no f-cking sense to me.
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Run the clock down to 2 sec and kick the FG. That way, Brady would not get the ball back.
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Stop on the 1. Run the clock out another 30 sec. Easy score on the 3rd or 4th down
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seemed retarded. If I was the giants, I take the sure touchdown rather than risk the field goal
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. said:seemed retarded. If I was the giants, I take the sure touchdown rather than risk the field goal



Yeah, thats what I dont get. Why risk a guaranteed score with a non-guaranteed FG?
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Field goal percentage from the 1 is 99% probable.
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. said:seemed retarded. If I was the giants, I take the sure touchdown rather than risk the field goal



That close, the field goal completion rate is close to 100%
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Bohica said:Field goal percentage from the 1 is 99% probable.


But that TD was 100% locked. Seems crazy to play those odds.
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yeah and then lose the game? are you retarded?
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. said:But that TD was 100% locked. Seems crazy to play those odds.



Odds of losing by giving Brady the ball with 1 minute on the clock and one time out (call it 20%) versus odds of missing a field goal from the 1 yard line (call it 3%).
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In that situation, you want to down the ball on the one yard line, run out the clock, kick the field goal, and give NO TIME for the other team to come back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3fVn8TE2XM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1m4y20bWuA

Ahmad Bradshaw f-cked up. By going in to the endzone, he gave Tom Brady and the Patriots nearly a minute to drive down the field, and it nearly cost the Giants the Super Bowl.
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. said:Odds of losing by giving Brady the ball with 1 minute on the clock and one time out (call it 20%) versus odds of missing a field goal from the 1 yard line (call it 3%).



yeah, I guess. Just seems weird to me to stop short of a TD in the f-cking superbowl.
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Jooz said:Run the clock down to 2 sec and kick the FG. That way, Brady would not get the ball back.



Heres what doesnt make sense.

1. At the 2 minute mark the Giants were already in chip shot range. The Patriots wasted a timeout and more than a minute for no reason before they eventually let NY score.

2. This is the most strange...the Giants RB stops at the 1 yard line, so he CLEARLY knew that he wasnt supposed to score a TD there. How is it possible that you ACCIDENTALLY score a touchdown?

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KM.as.a.dot said:Heres what doesnt make sense.

1. At the 2 minute mark the Giants were already in chip shot range. The Patriots wasted a timeout and more than a minute for no reason before they eventually let NY score.

2. This is the most strange...the Giants RB stops at the 1 yard line, so he CLEARLY knew that he wasnt supposed to score a TD there. How is it possible that you ACCIDENTALLY score a touchdown?



Bradshaw just plain f-cked up. Almost blew the game.
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KM.as.a.dot said:Heres what doesnt make sense.

2. This is the most strange...the Giants RB stops at the 1 yard line, so he CLEARLY knew that he wasnt supposed to score a TD there. How is it possible that you ACCIDENTALLY score a touchdown?

its called momentum...he was not expecting the defensive line to part like that and he couldn't stop in time
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KM.as.a.dot said:How is it possible that you ACCIDENTALLY score a touchdown?



The players never train for that situation.

Since childhood, a RB is conditioned to blast forward as much as possible.

If you watch the above videos of Maurice Jones Drew and Brian Westbrook, it's actually a struggle for them to go from full speed, to kneel down at the 1 yd line.

Ahmad Bradshaw tried, but stumbled a bit, and fell into the endzone.
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KM.as.a.dot said:Heres what doesnt make sense.

1. At the 2 minute mark the Giants were already in chip shot range. The Patriots wasted a timeout and more than a minute for no reason before they eventually let NY score.

2. This is the most strange...the Giants RB stops at the 1 yard line, so he CLEARLY knew that he wasnt supposed to score a TD there. How is it possible that you ACCIDENTALLY score a touchdown?




Why don't you do an expirement. Find a room in your house where you've got about 15-20 feet in front of an open door. Now stand as far away from the door as you can, and take off running full speed towards it, then try to stop about 6 inches away from it without crossing over the threshold.

Now imagine doing that with 30lbs of equipment on your back, and a bunch of 300 lb guys coming at you.
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Throbbing Justice said:Bradshaw just plain f-cked up. Almost blew the game.



He wasnt making a split second decision on the fly.

The fact that he "tried" to stop means that he knew he was supposed to not score before the play began (or would have in theory if the NFL wasnt trying to give the Patriots the ball back).

In other words, he somehow couldnt help but do the ONE THING that he wasnt supposed to do.
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. said:its called momentum...he was not expecting the defensive line to part like that and he couldn't stop in time



Looks like he had already stopped... and he had time to go down on one knee if he wanted to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp3DQrF3rYQ
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KM.as.a.dot said:He wasnt making a split second decision on the fly.

The fact that he "tried" to stop means that he knew he was supposed to not score before the play began (or would have in theory if the NFL wasnt trying to give the Patriots the ball back).

In other words, he somehow couldnt help but do the ONE THING that he wasnt supposed to do.



It's something that a RB has ever practiced before, since childhood, because the situation is so rare.

Run full speed, then take a knee exactly on the one yard line.

The first time you ever try to do something, there's always a risk, that you'll stumble.
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. said:Why don't you do an expirement. Find a room in your house where you've got about 15-20 feet in front of an open door. Now stand as far away from the door as you can, and take off running full speed towards it, then try to stop about 6 inches away from it without crossing over the threshold.

Now imagine doing that with 30lbs of equipment on your back, and a bunch of 300 lb guys coming at you.



Why are you doing any of that if the point ISNT TO SCORE?

If you are trying to score a TD, you dont slow down. If you ARENT trying to score a TD, why are you running full speed up to the 6 inch line only to stop?

It makes absolutely no f-cking sense.
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so the giants admit they cant hold off manning for one f-cking minute? Seems like a b-tch move to take a knee. Is this no longer a man's sport?
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. said:It's something that a RB has ever practiced before, since childhood, because the situation is so rare.

Run full speed, then take a knee exactly on the one yard line.

The first time you ever try to do something, there's always a risk, that you'll stumble.



Think about what youre saying...if its that hard to do then WHY WOULD SOMEBODY EVEN TRY DO THAT?

There is no difference at all between downing the ball at the 1 yard line or the 4 or 5 yard line. If you arent trying to score what are you doing inches away from the goal line in the first place?
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KM.as.a.dot said:Why are you doing any of that if the point ISNT TO SCORE?

If you are trying to score a TD, you dont slow down. If you ARENT trying to score a TD, why are you running full speed up to the 6 inch line only to stop?

It makes absolutely no f-cking sense.



The RB is trying to get yards, so he's running with full power & speed, expecting that he'll have to run over 300 lb defensive players.

The coach should probably tell the RB to down it on the 2 yard line, to give him a margin for error.

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KM.as.dot said:Think about what youre saying...if its that hard to do then WHY WOULD SOMEBODY EVEN TRY DO THAT?

There is no difference at all between downing the ball at the 1 yard line or the 4 or 5 yard line. If you arent trying to score what are you doing inches away from the goal line in the first place?



1) The 1 yd line is better than 5 yd line for the kicker.

2) Maurice Jones Drew & Brian Westbrook were able to do it, barely. But since Ahmad Bradshaw f-cked it up, I'm sure that some coaches in the future will tell their RB to down it on the 2 yd line (instead of the 1 yd line), to give him a margin of error.

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