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  Real parents : would you throw your 21 year old kid out the door for being irresponsible?
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No bitter trevs here.

My kid doesn't do anything illegal or such. Has a habit of leaving in the morning and returning about 11 pm, EVERY DAY.
No job. Basically just coming home to sleep, shower, and wash clothes.
As a parent I have a soft spot for him/her because he/she is my kid. Am I wrong to let this keep going?
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Does he pay rent?

If not throw him out. If he is not in school you should not be supporting him at all.
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Would you prefer that he was like me where he doesn't leave the house at all?

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I'm not a softie or a pushover. I just don't really have the nerve to throw him/her out into the street.
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If he is not costing you money, let him stay. And f-ck all you hard asses. We are in the worst recession since the 70's only with less jobs. Let's see you hard asses like living with nothing.
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I'd throw him out the door for being 21 and still living at home.
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. said:I'm not a softie or a pushover. I just don't really have the nerve to throw him/her out into the street.



he's young. Do it now while he can adapt.

Otherwise he'll be still at your place in 20 years. By then it will be too hard to go find a job
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. said:If he is not costing you money, let him stay. And f-ck all you hard asses. We are in the worst recession since the 70's only with less jobs. Let's see you hard asses like living with nothing.



This is the way I'm seeing it also.
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Ask him what he plans to do. Tell him he needs to start doing something - school, work, or the service. I don't advocate throwing him out either, but there's no need to subsidize his f-cking off. Since you provide his room and board, and he isn't doing anything, no reason to give him spending money.
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. said:This is the way I'm seeing it also.



But do pressure him to work anywhere. Learn a trade. Let him horde his money. What would be the worse that can happen? He might get lucky and find something good and save up enough to buy a house with cash.
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Why dont you try being a father and assist him to get on a good path? WTF does a 21 yr old know about anything?
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. said:Why dont you try being a father and assist him to get on a good path? WTF does a 21 yr old know about anything?

They often know more than you think. A father can help, but the kid must have some ambition, too.
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. said:Why dont you try being a father and assist him to get on a good path? WTF does a 21 yr old know about anything?



Maybe Dad is at work all day and doesn't see what's going on, schmuck.
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. said:Why dont you try being a father and assist him to get on a good path? WTF does a 21 yr old know about anything?



Maybe Dad is at work all day and doesn't see what's going on, schmuck.

He sees enough to know his son's just flopping around, and has asked our advice.
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You're not doing him any favors. Sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. The right thing is to get him on track toward being a responsible, productive adult.
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. said:No bitter trevs here.

My kid doesn't do anything illegal or such. Has a habit of leaving in the morning and returning about 11 pm, EVERY DAY.
No job. Basically just coming home to sleep, shower, and wash clothes.
As a parent I have a soft spot for him/her because he/she is my kid. Am I wrong to let this keep going?



Even if it isnt a full amount you should be charging him rent and making him pay for food. Even if he cant find a full time job he needs to be doing SOMETHING.
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. said:You're not doing him any favors. Sometimes it's hard to do the right thing. The right thing is to get him on track toward being a responsible, productive adult.

True, which is why Dad needs to sit down with Junior and ask him what his plans are. Gotta start somewhere.
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KM.as.a.dot said:
. said:No bitter trevs here.

My kid doesn't do anything illegal or such. Has a habit of leaving in the morning and returning about 11 pm, EVERY DAY.
No job. Basically just coming home to sleep, shower, and wash clothes.
As a parent I have a soft spot for him/her because he/she is my kid. Am I wrong to let this keep going?



Even if it isnt a full amount you should be charging him rent and making him pay for food. Even if he cant find a full time job he needs to be doing SOMETHING.

Indeed. If you don't need the money, save it for him as a nest egg when he moves out.
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Thanks F2'rs.
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Mellow out and let me stay, bro-dad. Don't harsh my vibes.
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. said:Indeed. If you don't need the money, save it for him as a nest egg when he moves out.



This. Sit him down, and point out that even a part time job will let him save a ton of cash up for when the economy gets better. It's just the waste of time that's an issue, at least take some classes at junior college, or some throw away retail job. Tell him it's not just to nag him, but it's a benefit to him, eventually. Hell, there are cool jobs that are part time that most people would like to do, but can't because they can't live on them, like security at stadiums and arenas.

If he's not causing problems, and helps you out if you need it, then I don't see the problem.
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. said:True, which is why Dad needs to sit down with Junior and ask him what his plans are. Gotta start somewhere.



So, what are your plans, son?
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I think I'm gonna go hang out all day then come back around 11 and play some X-Box or WoW.
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. said:So, what are your plans, son?
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I think I'm gonna go hang out all day then come back around 11 and play some X-Box or WoW.
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Ok f-ck it, Im throwing you out because Im too lazy to actually help you figure your sh-t out. I just don't want to be an enabler of a future 40 yr old basement boy.
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If you're planning on leaving him the house, sit down with him and go over the expenses and maintenance of owning a house. Explain that he's going to have to come up with at least that every month, but the total is likely to double as the house gets older. Talk about a three year plan to get something going for himself. It might take a year or two of school or an apprenticeship, or something like that.

I would charge rent, but keep it minimal, and give him a couple months before he has to start paying. $50/mo this year, $100/mo next year, $200/mo the year after that, and then level it off at like $300 or so. No free board, he pitches in on the food bill, utilities, cable internet, TV, gas for the car, insurance, everything.

Tell him you'll keep half the money in an account for him. He gets the lump sum when:

1. He's 30 and his ass is out of your house
2. He saves up enough for a down payment on his own place (not a first and last and two months' rent, a down payment on his own place).
3. He graduates with a four year degree and a business plan to succeed in the New Economy
4. He apprentices with an electrician or a plumber or a furniture refinisher, or some other decent trade for two years
5. Whatever else you come up with.

I would give him ten hours of work around the house, phased in over years 2 and 3... unless that would dig into something else he's got going on that looks workable.

If you really like having him around and he's not a hassle to you or your wife, give him the option of building a significant addition onto your home and let him stay. If he builds another floor on the house or adds a two story 1000sf apartment in the back... hey, sounds like a good deal to me.
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Call me a hard ass and save the sh-t about Europeans still living at home at age 30+. I wouldnt kick him out, as that is harsh, but things must change. There are jobs, sure not making +100,000 a year, but one must start somewhere. Get a job, any job to learn a work ethic and responibility. One class at the local CC wont cut the mustard...FULL TIME.

Maybe as other generation did, as I did, join the Army. Although today I would recommend the Air Force. Remember, 21 turns to 26 then 30+ real quick. Sometimes doing the right thing is hard.

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